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Interview
by Kathleen Gregory
Tara Institute
(TI) is a member of the Foundation for the Preservation of the Mahayana
Tradition (FPMT), established by Lama Thubten Yeshe and Lama Zopa
Rinpoche. TI celebrated its twenty-fifth anniversary in 2001. The
Institute may be well-known to many of our local Ordinary Mind readers.
The facade of Marillac House, as it was once known, is located in
Mavis Avenue, Brighton East in beautiful heritage premises. It is
a large corner property, opposite the very pretty Landcox Park,
dominated by columns which create a grand reception and lead into
an entrance hallway that includes a beautiful small stupa to be
circumambulated as you walk through. On the ground floor there is
a main office, bookshop, library, meditation room and kitchen/dining
area. You will also find the children's club room tucked away behind
the stage curtain in the Landcox Hall theatre. Upstairs are premises
of the resident teacher Geshe Doga, a dormitory for visitors and
some residents' rooms. To the back of the main building is the family
wing.
Marillac House
was once a Catholic residential school for girls with disabilities,
run by nuns. When it was sold to TI, the nuns and the girls moved
into nearby houses. On the day I visited, one of the nuns who used
to live there was visiting and showing a friend how the chapel has
been transformed into a gompa. Shaped in a half-circle, the gompa
is dominated by a stained glass window that symbolises the seven
gifts of the spirit. Opposite the window is a large Buddhist altar
in the Tibetan tradition, housing statues of Lama Tsong Khapa, founder
of the Gelugpa tradition, his disciples and a beautiful new Buddha
statue recently arrived from Nepal. The gompa can hold up to 300
people. I meet with Allys Andrews, the co-ordinator of the Schools
Program at Tara Institute.
Kathleen
Gregory: Could we start with the history of Tara Institute
- how did it come to be here?
Allys Andrews:
Tara Institute actually began officially in 1976 and was really
started by Uldis Balodis in a building in Carlton. There had been
some activity before that. In 1975 Inta McKimm had begun discussing
Buddhism with some friends, following a course that Lama Yeshe gave
at Dromana. That was in the very early days. Then around November
1976, Lama Yeshe was asked to be the Spiritual Director of this
group and he agreed. He appointed the Venerable Konchong Dolma (Bonnie
Rothenberg) as Spiritual Program Coordinator and named the program
Tara House. Bonnie organised the new Tara House premises in Kew
and that is where my husband and I first came to the teachings.
The group at Tara House at that time was made up of students who
had been to Kopan Monastery, Nepal, to the meditation courses that
Lama Yeshe and Lama Zopa Rinpoche had run there. The students felt
that they needed more guidance. In 1980, Lama Yeshe suggested that
a teacher be appointed and the community now felt ready to take
up the challenge of supporting someone. Geshe Dawo arrived and stayed
for four years.
During his last
visit to Australia in 1981, Lama Yeshe appointed Peter Guiliano
as President of Tara House and advised us to buy a house with 21
rooms. This was eventually accomplished - it was an old boarding
house in Crimea Street, East St Kilda, which we all worked very
hard to fix up. By the time of Lama Yeshe's death in 1984, there
were about 100 people attending weekly teachings at Tara House.
In that same year Geshe Dawo returned to India and in November Geshe
Doga became the resident lama. The translator Samdup Tsering also
arrived that year.
As the number
of people attending teachings had increased, the need for a larger
centre became more apparent, and the search for new premises began
again. Geshe Doga used to come to walk in Landcox Park. One day
in 1987, he looked across to Marillac House and said to those with
him, 'Wouldn't it be nice for Tara House to be located there?' A
few weeks later the 'for sale' sign went up and the property was
eventually purchased. The name Tara House was changed to Tara Institute
at that time.
KG: How
many active members would TI currently have?
AA: There
are about 170 financial members whose support helps to keep the
place going. We have, however, many people who contribute in different
and important ways to the running and development of the Institute.
KG: What
sort of roles do the sangha play in the community here?
AA: I
think there are two answers - there is an external point of view
and an internal point of view. From the external point of view,
Venerable Carolyn Lawler is the Spiritual Program Coordinator and
she works incredibly hard developing and overseeing the program,
as well as co-ordinating the volunteers who help with that program.
Then there is Venerable Tenzin Dongak, who is Geshe-la's translator.
He has come quite recently from Sera Monastery and translates Tuesday
and Wednesday nights and for weekend courses. He also teaches debating
classes on Sundays. Venerable Frank has recently become gompa manager.
And, of course, Geshe Doga gives teachings, initiations and advice.
Apart from their external activities, the sangha symbolise the qualities
of the Buddha, such as purity and commitment and serve as an example
and inspiration for the community.
KG:
Could you talk about the teaching program?
AA: On
Monday nights senior students provide the 'Introduction to Buddhist
Meditation' classes. These are very popular classes and there are
some excellent teachers in this program who have been studying with
Geshe-la for some considerable time. It is quite a responsibility.
These are introductory classes for people who are new to Buddhist
meditation. On these nights between 60-120 people might attend.
On Tuesday nights,
there is Study Group. This is where students examine the teachings
in much greater depth. There are commitments involved with that
program - you have to attend a six week cycle which is four classes
of teachings, one night of discussion and then on the sixth night
there is a written exam where you really learn how much you have
understood. There is a Study Group Constitution, which lays out
the principles, aims and precepts for attending these teachings.
It is largely from the Tuesday night classes that the Monday night
teachers come.
At the end of
last year Geshe Doga completed the teachings on Liberation in the
Palm of Your Hand, by Pabongka Rinpoche. We took eleven years to
complete it so it was very thorough and unbelievably precious. This
year Geshe-la has been teaching the Tenets which has been very challenging
and difficult, but I think it is reflective of the depth of his
students' commitment that they are prepared to do that kind of study.
They never miss a teaching, they write the most unbelievable exams
and they get together to do Debate Class and the Discussion Group,
which are both held on Sundays. Next year Geshe Doga will give a
commentary on Chandrakirti's Entering the Middle Way. Between 60-80
people would attend that Study Group.
On Wednesday
nights, Geshe-la gives a much more general teaching. This year he
has been teaching on The Thirty Seven Practices of a Bodhisattva
and will continue with that next year. The structure of those nights
is that Geshe-la gives some instruction on meditation, leads a breathing
meditation, give some general advice on how to live harmoniously
in relationships and any number of day to day issues and then provides
a commentary on part of the text. They are inspiring teachings for
people to use in their daily lives - more than a hundred people
attend. There is also a Retreat Commitment associated with the Tuesday
night classes. You can either do a one week Lam Rim retreat or attend
six sessions on Thursday nights finishing with a puja.
Also on two
Thursday nights every month, there is the Healing Volunteers and
Healing Support Group. Twice a year, Tara Institute runs Healing
Meditation courses for people with serious illnesses. Here, the
Venerable Carolyn and Bob Sharples teach meditations for dealing
with illness. They are supported on an ongoing basis month to month.
The Healing Volunteer Group is for people who are trained to support
those who find it difficult to come to the Institute. I know that
the Venerable Carolyn has done some work with the dying and conducted
funerals. This program has been running for many years, under the
direction of Lama Zopa Rinpoche. A particular emphasis of the Volunteers
Group, which Geshe-la has encouraged, is visiting the frail and
isolated elderly. So volunteers are matched up with people in the
community and then visit them, not necessarily to do meditation
but just to be a friend or to help with shopping. This has certainly
been identified as an area that we need to expand.
KG: Can
you say something about the Schools Program that you co-ordinate?
AA: We
have been visiting schools for the last fifteen years. The Schools
Program is increasing; this year we have taught students from 25
schools. Some schools have been coming to the program for ten years
now. Schools will contact the Institute and we either go out and
talk to students or arrange for school groups to come here. Often
we will have groups of 140 students to whom we give a short talk
on Buddhism and some meditation instruction. Now that it has become
more curriculum based in the education system, there are certain
topics that they will want to have addressed. Particularly in the
ethics classes, there have been a lot of questions about euthanasia,
capital punishment and so on - there will be specific things they
will want to find out from the Buddhist perspective.
Generally, I
try and talk very briefly about the life of the Buddha, give an
easy introduction to the Four Noble Truths, explain the concept
of transforming the mind and finally lead them in some meditation.
I usually get about two-thirds of the way through and the questions
start coming. That is much better, because then the students are
finding out what they really want to know. This procedure has been
working quite well. As a result of this connection, I was asked
to coordinate the school's event with His Holiness the Dalai Lama,
which is planned for May 2002.
KG: What
other activities are regularly occurring at the Institute?
AA: There
are also the pujas and spiritual activities - for example, Tara
and Guru pujas happen every month. Then the major pujas for the
Buddha's birthday, the Dalai Lama's birthday and so on. Just recently
we offered a long-life puja to Geshe Doga and we set out 3500 water
bowls, light and food offerings. We try to hold four Nuneys (nyung
nyes) a year and one meditation course per month. Every Easter we
have a four day retreat that is sometimes held in the country. Geshe
Doga also confers the White Tara initiation each year and usually
one other initiation per year. There is also a Sunday School for
children called Dharma Club. Geshe-la will give a Refuge Ceremony
biannually. We also have water bowl practice monthly and once a
year, a study group seminar - which is like a debating seminar.
One of the very
important activities is the Publishing Group, which transcribes
Geshe-la's teachings each week. Their work is very important, because
it preserves the teachings correctly and helps students with their
study and discussion. They are presently working on putting together
a publication of Geshe-la's teachings. We also host Vietnamese pilgrims
every year. When the Vietnamese first came to Melbourne, they started
their practice at Tara Institute, so there has been a long history
of association between the two traditions.
KG: What
are some of the future plans for TI and how do these evolve as a
member organisation of FPMT?
AA: Geshe-la
always places incredible emphasis on stability and consistency.
I am sure that he wishes for the study group continues and develop
so that more people benefit from this, and that the Buddha's teachings
are made available to as many people as possible. Geshe-la has a
number of things that he would like to see the Institute accomplish.
One of these, which I know is close to his heart, is a retirement
home for the elderly and another is a retreat centre in the country.
Geshe Doga's advice and aspirations have always been integrated
into the development of TI. Lama Zopa Rinpoche is the Spiritual
head of the Institute and he is consulted on major decisions. It
is also important that we take responsibility for the direction
of TI ourselves. There is a Director who is chosen by Lama Zopa
Rinpoche. He or she is part of an Executive Committee, who, in consultation
with the TI Community, come up with a vision for the Institute.
One direction
that seems to meet a very important need, is making meditation and
relaxation techniques available to the wider community; particularly
the business community. A large multi-national company got in touch
with us about this time last year and a meditation group was set
up for a small group of people there. We are planning to expand
the healing group activities, but again to set up any of these activities
you need people, training and very careful planning. It is really
important that we have a well co-ordinated and supported team of
people.
KG: How
do these activities sit inside and outside Buddhism as a whole?
AA: I
think that at TI, like all Tibetan Buddhist centres, we are striving
to follow the example of His Holiness the Dalai Lama in dedicating
our services to the community. This means that we have to help where
we can. It is really important to see that we really cannot offer
fantastic help unless we are working on our own minds. So, at the
moment, I think we are all fairly limited. However, if we continue
to listen to the teachings, contemplate them, study and take advice
from our teachers and understand our own minds, we will be able
to offer much more as members of the community.
KG: As
your residential community is quite a large one, could you say something
about how it actually works?
AA: Some
of the residents have been living at TI and its previous incarnations
for many, many years. Their rent is a big financial support to the
Institute. They also contribute to the upkeep of the Institute and
there is always a lot of basic work that needs to be done. I think
they choose to live here to be close to their teacher - to be able
to walk a few steps to the teachings, which is very precious, and
to know that everything they do here is supporting the Dharma in
some way. There are about 33 residents, including six children who,
I believe, have the good karma to be living in a Dharma environment
close to Geshe Doga. Part of the requirement of living here is that
residents participate in the meal service five nights a week. There
is also the resident's kitchen, where they can do their own cooking
at other times. Having a residential community does contribute to
a feeling of stability. Geshe Doga's presence over the years and
his insistence on a regular program with a regular schedule, also
generates the sense of stability that people are looking for.
KG:
Is there anything else you would like to regarding future directions
for TI?
AA: We
want to provide for Geshe-la as he grows older; that is very important.
We want to have a retirement home for the elderly. It is important
that we support the elderly in our own community and that this sort
of support is available to others. There is the development of the
programs that I have already mentioned which involves careful planning
and training. There is the maintenance of this house which has a
heritage listing. It is incredibly important to transmit the teachings
of the Buddha in a very pure way. We really need to develop realisations
- to get some western Buddhas happening! A very important part of
that is to keep the programs running and to support the students
who are doing such amazing study and who are dedicated to that.
Another part of our future is looking after our ordained sangha
properly - they are so precious and it makes such a difference to
have people in robes around the Institute, living in a way that
is such a great example.
KG: How
do the sangha come here - is it through Lama Zopa Rinpoche?
AA: Mostly
Lama Zopa Rinpoche will direct people to come here. I know that
the sangha check with him to ensure that it is still beneficial
for them to be here. It is such a big and busy centre, and with
so many different people living and studying here, it is important
to have the sangha creating a good sense of stability and continuity.
KG: How
do people go about making their various commitments here?
AA: It
seems to me that it is very much a personal matter at TI. People
will take initiations, have commitments and organise their practice
with the guidance of Geshe-la. People get together- maybe a group
of two or three - and go to Atisha Centre in Bendigo for a retreat.
However, I think it will be really fantastic to have a Retreat Centre
available, I think it will really energise that aspect of practice.
KG: What
is the significance of 'Tara' in the naming of this Institute?
AA: I
am not sure why Lama Yeshe gave us the name Tara House, but given
that Tara represents the enlightened activity of all of the Buddhas,
I guess he knew it was going to be a busy place! Tara is also very
helpful in overcoming obstacles. With any activity that has such
a great goal - making the Dharma Wisdom Knowledge, as Lama Yeshe
called it, available to all beings - there are going to be many
obstacles. Tara is the one to help us with those.
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