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The Buddhist
Foundation (Vic) Australia is one of the more recently formed Buddhist
organisations. Their spiritual adviser and teacher, Venerable Bhikku
Bodhi, is from the Forest Hermitage, Kandy, Sri Lanka and their
advisers in practice include an impressive list of local and interstate
Sangha. I met with Dr Ranjith Hettiarachi, one of the founding members
of the Foundation, in his home. At our time of meeting, Dr Hettiarachi
was busy with the organisation of the Australasian Buddhist Convention
Week, including a two-day Conference, to be held in late June.
Kathleen
Gregory: Can you say a little about how the Foundation came about?
Dr Ranjith
Hettiarachi: The initial group interested in Buddhist practice
came together and realised the value of practice and how difficult
it is for us to access good teachers and good teachings. This gave
us the stimulus to group ourselves together, to set up a foundation,
which had its teaching objectives and practice objectives joined
together. These six objectives are really about establishing a charitable
teaching foundation, affiliating with other associations and organisations
and finally, serving those in need: the aged, ailing and disadvantaged.
KG: You
have a principal spiritual adviser and teacher in Sri Lanka, does
he come here often?
Dr RH:
Bhikku Bodhi has never come to Australia. In fact, to answer this
question leads on to how the Convention came about. We had our teacher
who had had some training with Bhikku Bodhi in Kandy, Sri Lanka.
Bhikku Bodhi is one of the most accomplished meditators, practice
teachers and one of the finest of people who, perhaps, you could
think of as a Buddhist monk. I was trying to get him down to Australia.
He was initially reluctant to come here, but he later consented
to come and spend a retreat season here. While I was organising
for him to come, it struck me that it was perhaps a better idea
if I were to bring in a few others with him, and maybe we could
have some form of meeting. Of course it grew, and when I rang around
the world asking people to come here, something like ten or twelve
out of fifteen consented to come, even though we are so far away.
Then this gave me the stimulus, of course, that we go ahead and
have a convention. So, having asked Bhikku Bodhi to come, we got
the ball rolling towards a convention. Of course, it was not all
that easy, but that is how it started.
KG: You
said that you do not have premises yet. How and where have you been
meeting and practicing together?
Dr RH:
We have one of these neighbourhood houses where we meet and do sutta
reading evenings together. Some of those meetings are also held
here. Then we use some of my offices for the Foundation very successfully.
It was easy in the sense that we did not have the problems that
other people have in finding premises and setting things up. At
this stage, doing this convention is basically management work.
In due course, of course, we may need practice premises.
KG: Do
you gather as a group to do sutta readings on a regular basis?
Dr RH:
Every Tuesday we have sutta reading and on those nights we have
had as many as twenty-five people attending. Some days, of course,
we are down to about fifteen, but generally there is a set crowd
who always attend. We also hold what we call 'daily retreats' every
two or three months and not less than forty or so people attend
those. That is quite a large group. We invite various other Buddhist
centres and we have a couple of well-versed, reputable monks to
lead us. Again, these full-day retreats are based on the sutta text.
KG: Where
do you meet for those one-day retreats with that many people?
Dr RH:
We had a very spacious place in a centre called Dhammasaramaya in
Keysborough, just off Springvale Road, past the Springvale area.
It is a new place with a good hall and with all parking facilities.
KG: Can
you say a bit more, then, about that connection to the suttas? It
seems very important from where you are coming from as a group to
really connect to the words of the Buddha.
Dr RH: Correct.
When you read the suttas, it is as though Buddha is speaking to
you, so it is the Buddha's word that you are trying to grasp and
understand and this is sometimes not easy. This is where we need
a learned, very versatile monk, perhaps, to assist us. Monks like
the Venerable Bodhi - who did the translations and editions of these
sutta texts - are masters at this. They are the finest, most well-versed
monks you could ever think of. By listening to the suttas, especially
in a medium of meditation, we are benefited immensely, because we
are receiving these teachings, not in our normal wakefulness but
in a different plane of contemplation. The teacher, of course, gives
an exposition of the teaching in his own way, following the commentary
and whatever other things are available in the texts attached to
the teaching - he gives an exposition so that we will get an all-round
knowledge of what the Buddha was trying to say. Sometimes the language
of the time and the way he has put it across, is not easy to grasp
in a modern sense.
We did this
initially in Melbourne, mind you. When the monk left for Brisbane,
we connected him up for two hours by telephone-conferencing to Melbourne,
and then we also connected him up to Tasmania, New Zealand, Sydney,
Brisbane and Perth - to many, many centres in those two hours. Thereby,
we fulfilled one of our other functions by making the Dharma available
to whoever is interested. It is a difficult thing, because the telephone
connections are limited; the technology is not developed to the
extent that we can connect far and wide. It is one of the best functions
we have served so far, the sutta reading, presenting it to other
Buddhist centres and all the discussions thereof.
KG: This
is not a very traditional approach, especially for lay people?
Dr RH:
It is not. In fact, it is not at all. After having been a Buddhist
all my life, it is only in the last three or four years that I got
exposed to that actual sutta reading. The reason is that the suttas
are in Pali and not until now have we had a reasonably accurate
and reasonably well-presented translation. As you may know, the
English translation of many of the Pali words does not have the
same meaning. For example, dukkha and unsatisfactoriness - they
do not mean the same thing, so we have a difficulty there. Some
of these monks - like Bhikku Bodhi who carries a Ph.D. from the
United States - have such a good knowledge of English that they
are able to go into the depths of the Pali texts and come out with
the right terminology. In answer to your question, that is the way
to go: to read both the Pali and the English versions. No doubt
it is an unusual method of learning, but I found it is the method
of learning. One can listen to other people's talks and lectures,
but you are far away from practice. Actual practice is in the text,
as the Buddha has put it.
KG: What
future do you hold for the Foundation?
Dr RH: As regards
the future, I have a vision, which is: because we cannot access
monks easily, I thought we must utilise modern technology to access
monks, no matter where they are - whether they are in the UK or
the United States or Dharamsala, in India, or Kandy, in Sri Lanka.
I consulted the most technologically accomplished monk on Australian
soil, the Venerable Pannyavaro of the BuddhaNet. He says I am two
years ahead of time, but it will come. The best examples of this
sort of technology is through the television, but it costs too much.
To do it at our level, perhaps by computer, is not that much of
a cost, but certainly tens of thousands of dollars is nothing for
a job like this. It is one of my visions for the future that we
will, here in Melbourne, access teachings on a particular day, a
particular time in the evening from a faraway location and with
a top, first class monk talking to us. And then, perhaps, we will
interact. That is what we would want to do.
KG: Well,
I like your ambitions. I am also curious in terms of the sixth objective
that you have, to be of service to those who are aged and ailing
and disadvantaged. Can you speak a little about that?
Dr RH:
It is extremely sad that when we get to that level, when we are
aged and ailing and disadvantaged, by these or other factors such
as disability, we get left alone like a log of wood. This is the
time that you need access to Dhamma the most, because you seek comfort,
not only the emotional comfort of listening; you ultimately develop
a physical comfort out of the Dhamma. These people are deprived
of that. And I thought about it, I thought of myself some day when
I cannot move around and drive to a temple or whatever and listen
to teachings - these people must have some facility to do so. Maybe
they have a book but how much can you read? It is not like listening
to somebody's voice in the form of a pre-recorded teaching. That
is comforting - there is nothing like Buddhist teachings to bring
about that ease, that peaceful mind. So that was the purpose of
that objective and it is a very important one. Ian Gawler (from
the Gawler Foundation), who went through the objectives, told me
this is a very, very good objective to conclude with. He is, I think,
fully behind that.
KG: What
connections do you have with other Buddhist centres and organisations?
Dr RH:
Yes, that is the whole purpose - there is no point of being just
'all closed up' - we must interact with all people, all groups.
Buddhism has no boundaries so therefore, the teachings have no boundaries
either. It is common to humanity. The whole purpose of Buddhism
is to serve humanity - that is what it is. To do that you must go
and reach out to everybody. Unfortunately, we see a lot of seclusion:
Sri Lankans keep to the Sri Lankan teachers, Sri Lankan practice
and their rituals. Likewise, the Malaysians will go to the Malaysian
teacher and the Vietnamese will go to the Vietnamese. Now, this
is not right truly. I think it is something terribly wrong with
the Buddhist infrastructure. Those are my perspectives - we have
got to open out. I am so glad a centre like yours has come and seen
me. I think very highly of you for that, because we have now interacted
and we have made inroads into each other, purely with a view to
Buddhist teachings and in learning that and furthering that and
passing it on to the others who want it.
KG: Are
you looking to establish a temple and have a resident teacher?
Dr RH:
This will come about this way. It is not so much that I want to
go ahead and set up a temple as such, but I certainly want to have
access to teachers. I do not mind getting property to set them up.
It will turn out to be a temple of some form or other but the whole
idea is not so much a temple in its temple form. I want it in its
practise form, so that monks are there in practise, not caught up
in administration or writing books. By doing that, I will be able
to practise with them and then I will give that gift to all who
require it. That is the ultimate aim. Why I named it the 'Foundation'
is that we will serve as an umbrella for whoever wishes to be affiliated
with us. We already have about, I think, twelve, fourteen associations,
here and overseas. But I want to set up a network - not a power
base - that is the wrong perspective. As it says here in the objectives,
'To affiliate with associations and organisations with similar teachings
and practices within Australia and world-wide, seeking and providing
mutual co-operation in the fulfilment of the said functions of the
Foundation.' That is what it means.
KG: Thank
you, Dr Hettiarachi.
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